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new-tigrayThe Future of Tigrai After the 2010 Election

The following documents were taken from the link below and we hope that most of the texts in this document reflect the real nature of Tigrean ethnic nationalism which we all along have argued to be patently anti-Ethiopian since its inception as an outgrowth of the Tigrean Nationalist Organisation that was formed at Haile Selassie I university in the early 1970s. Today, Tigrean ethnic nationalism, whose ideology is shared by many Tigreans, poses the greatest danger to the continued existence of Ethiopia as a nation. Even under Italian colonial occupation, Ethiopia had never faced such an inimical force.

Please read the following views of the Tigrean nationalist in order to fully grasp the significance of the virlulent Tigrean nationalism and the danger it poses to Ethiopia.
https://www.tigraionline.com/tolforum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1525

 

by hadegeKassa » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:22 pm

What is the future guys for us Tegaru? I used to insult halafi for not giving up on Abay Tigray, I’ve been a pro-Ethiopia person but is that a solution for us anymore? More and more i’m starting to consider Meles and co. a long term danger for our people. Even in the present our benefits are mediocre compared to the change happening in the rest of the country.

Plus it is obvious the hostility being built up against Tegaru…if by some chance we lose our military superiority, I am not sure our supposed “brothers” wouldn’t act out ethnic cleansing on Tegaru.

It is also obvious Ethiopians will never loose their racist culture, if we are always going to be divided by race what is the point of one country? Based on these assumptions what do you guys propose.

I’ve formed an opinion about what is path we should follow, but I want to hear what people here have to say? Please unless you are from Tigray stay on the sidelines….so Halafi, George, Dani…what is the future for our people?
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Re: The future after 2010
by Halafi Mengedi » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:13 pm
Hadegekassa,

Thank you for bringing the best topic on this website in 2010 for all concerned Tigrayans have some thoughts to share for their people of Tigray and discuss them here.

I was reading on nazret.com about Eritrea was attacked by Ethiopia across Zalambesa border recently and all Ethiopian do not like to defend Ethiopia alongside with Tigrayans and they want Issayass to stay in power for their own long term agenda. The reason is Shaebia is recruiting, training and arming some Amharu to topple EPRDF and replace some of his dogs in Addis Ababa and résumé his looting the country with out any challenge from any ethnic from Ethiopia. The second reason is if shaebia dismantled by Woyane leadership, Tigray will materialized long held dream of Abay Tigray by uniting the two highlanders, Kunama, Irob and Afar and Tigray will be super power in Ethiopia and no one will challenge them in the future and the power will be in their hand for long, long time to come. The bottom line is the unity of Tigray and Eritrea is the nightmare of Amhara and the survival of Amhara language, culture and the region they are occupying right now.

In my opinion, the first thing Tigrayans should do is separate Tigrayans from Meles and Sebhat families business. To do that some Tegaru should ask Meles to step down from the head of Woyane and invite all Tigrayans especially all the fighters ex and current members from all over the world including Giday Gerhatsiyon, Aregawi Berhe, Gebru Asrat and Seye Abraha groups and new generation of educated Tegaru and representatives from each Awraja and have reconciliation, open and candid discussion what went wrong and what went right in previous years. Elect new central committees and politburo who are trust worthy and nationalist enough to rally and galvanize our society to implement what ever the new vision for the future of Tigray they come up.

Tigay has there options for its survival:

  1. To stay with Ethiopia union
  2. To form its own independent state
  3. To unite with its people of Eritrea

1. If Tigray stays with Ethiopia union, Tegaru must abolish Amharic language in all ethnic groups expect Amhara region. The reason is Amharic language is the only card they have they can use it as broadband to control the rest of ethnics when appropriate time comes. So long Amharic remains as national language every ethnic will bow to them in order to get Federal jobs and every ethnic will end up the way used to be prior Woyane arrival in Addis Ababa. Let the next generation of Ethiopians learn English and communicate in English as Federal means of communication and English language will expedite our integration and unify us all with out feeling guilty since English is not anyone’s language in the country and will not create superiority or inferiority among different ethnics. Also having English language as national, Somalia and Djibouti can join us and the Eritrean resistance to Amharic language will diminish and will create harmony in all Horn Africa. The last important Woyane should do is create AGEW region with the current Amhara state. They are the majority and will diminish the power of Amharu in the future if we can manage to separate between Amhara and Agew,. Woyane should have done it 18 years ago, when Tigray gave its Agew people to join with their fellow Agew Amhara.

2. If Tigray wants to form its own independent in the future, Woyane should have done a lot of work to prepare our people and improve all the infrastructures, the different economic sectors and strengthen our military and construct military bases and facilities during the last 18 years. Still they can put smart and educated people at key positions in Tigray and let them implement all the necessary preparations as soon as possible. Halafi Mengedi

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by Halafi Mengedi » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:18 pm
Continue…..

3. If Tigray wants to bring back its people of Eritrea, then woyane has to find a way to dismantle Shaebia who is working day and night to destroy Eritrea and Tigray all together. The Ethiopian Government has to arm and give full support to various ethnic of Eritrea like Kunama, Saho and Afar and some of the friendly highlanders to topple Issayas first and stabilize the area and unite Afar, Kunama and Saho with their fellow in ethnic in Tigray. To resolve the complex of Eritrean politics and different interests, Woyane/Ethiopia has to show both stick and carrot in its campaign effort.

Tigray needs to recruit new generation of solders to replace our aging heroes as soon as possible. If we are strong in military, our poeple will survive, otherwise they are so many groupsare working to dismatle us and take back our lands.

In my opinion, Tigray does not need more than one party at this time when our people are facing so many enemies and poverty. Tegaru need reconciliations not creating parties.
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Re: The future after 2010
by wedi adwa » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:05 am
Deki sawa,

You askari hamassen banda! Who says tigray will be united with eritrea?

How can the proud tigrean live with the disgraced Askari hamassen,
How can the proud tigrean with deep culture, relegion and history can live with askari hamassen raped, kicked, slaved, by turks, egypt, arabs, Italians and british collonizers.

How can the proud tigrean refused and fought for not to be collonized by Arabs and europes can live with the poor, askari, banda, no culture, no relgion, no heritage, isolated, badly shaped hamassen.
How can the proud tigrean live with war loving people, terrorist, spy for bandanet , suffered from identity crises and hybreeded like mule from turk, egypt and arabs. I prefer living with satinael(devil) to living with hamassen
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Re: The future after 2010
by King ezana » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:01 am
halafi mengedi,

I believe the topic you posted about the future of tigray is very important issue. but I do not agree on the option that tigray should be included to eritrea. this concept is extremely disastrous idea for both eritrea and tigray. we know in history that the proposal drafted by british to partition eritrea low land to be with sudan and Tigrigna speaker highlands to be with ethiopia was believed to have initiated the emerge of ELF or later EPLF claiming for one eritrea. Rather for future Tigray , let’s concentrate on Ethiopian politces. we should be curious about what is happening and what to happen in Menilik palace. we should be in favor of opposition parties struggling for more and practical federalism in peaceful way or armed like OLF. This way is the only way to avoid showa amharas from entering minillik palace and implement the evil rule over us. I strongly believe that It is very difficult for showa amharas to lead the country as before. the awareness of Oromo people, afar, somalli and other ethnics is drammatically changed. I lived in oromia for 6 years, I understood that almost all people beleive even the current federalism made by meles is not fully implemented and want to be more federallized other wise the consequence will be more devastating let alone to be administered by showa amharas who try to dismantle the federalsm. The time they try to dismantle the federalism, the worst civil war will be broken out like somalia. this is not a propaganda. I practically saw it during election 2005. Every oromo youth was starting to be with the unwanted OPDO to defend oromia from Kinijit. OLF sent a warning signal through mass media warning not to accept kinijit propaganda(old gobena). had the situation gone worse, the civil war between ethnics would have been broken out. there was a sign to target amhara known as neftegna in oromia, afar, beneshangul, somalli and tigray areas. We should strongly encourage that the next federal goverment Ethiopia should be taken by oromo people who can lead our country peacefully. Other wise the fate of somalia will be repeated in ethiopia. King ezana

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Re: The future after 2010
by Habi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:20 am

To me the tone of the topic is not only niether here nor there but also too much absurd. Ethiopia was born nowhere other than Tigrai. Ethiopia was constructed, defended, and promoted by blood and bone of Tigrayans. Just to cite an example from yesterday, for whom would you think King of Kings Yohannes gave his very life?

With all sense of morality, who is actually behind this type of mentality against Tigrayans? Isn’t it the SUPER SHAEBIYA mafia? which militory are you speaking, man? The captive millitory? Didn’t you watch Dimtsi “Woyane”(Dimtsi Hafash in practice) where Sebhat Nega declared to the world that the woyane army is ready to defend the sovereignity of his Ertra? Is this army which the SUPER SHAEBIYANS use to intimidate other neighbors(or enemies) of Ertra you call militory superiority? It is upto you; if we have to be honest woyane is totally defeated, it doesnot exist any more. There is only SUPER SHAEBIYA, we can only swallow this fact!
Indeed Weyentis are being embraced by Ethiopians. Ethiopians are rejecting only SUPER SHAEBIYANS who went as far as incriminating Atse Yohanes;they declared Yohannes as an agressor of Sudan and a collonizer of Ertra. The SUPER SHAEBIYANS sold Tigray itself, just few among their countless conspiracy.

Look arround also: Germany became great only after unification; disintegration never helped Somalia, India/Pakistan, South/North Korea etc. What did Ertrans got after the “independence”?
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Re: The future after 2010
by Guest » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:47 am
To King Ezana

If you weren’t delusional, and if you indeed ever lived in any part of Oromia, you would know that Oromo’s mortal enemy is Woyanes, and by extension Tigrians. Thanks to Woyanes, the poison you tried to spread against the Amharu has completely reversed and come back at you Tigrians. Now, whenever the is any sort of problem in any of the villages or towns or cities, the first place residents look at is the Tigrians. No matter how much your cadres and paid turncoats try to blame things on the “Amharu” Tigrians and Woyanes are the first suspects. This instinct has taken over in all ethnic groups..and why not? The Amharu scapegoating technique has long been seen for what it is: A tool for Tigrians to rule all over Ethiopia.

What you fail to realize is that your Woyanes (your greed) has turned _everybody_ against you. This is an amazing feat considering the amount of effort you have tried to blame the Amharus. It has been two decades now and in these times you have accomplished nothing but isolating the Tigrian people. Your focus should have been in developing the country, distributing power and implementing some sort of democracy. But you were so mortally terrified of the Amharus that you lost this real chance to make for a better country. You lost it long ago. The Tigrian people by and large are not to blame for this, what goes around comes around.

Think. Where do you have friends? The Amharus and Hamassens were the closest to you in terms of your own ethnic game. Even Amharic and Tigrigna are cousins. You have squandered that by making enemies with the entire Amharu population (instead of the elite). And Abay-Tigray? Who are you kidding? At best, if that ever happens, you will be second class citizens expected to do domestic work. It wasn’t the Amharu that called you Lementi, beles shekati, awraja Agame etc. Are you really dim enough to put Abay-Tigray as an option? I will bet that majority of the Eritrean population sees Tigrians as inferior.

So where to next? Oromos. Every evidence suggests, undoubtedly, that the Woyane regime’s largest victims are Oromos. And since majority of the economy, military, and government is controlled by Tigrians, naturally Tigrians have become the mortal enemies of Oromos. While you squandered years and years trying to make enemies between Oromos and Amharu people by conjuring up long past events, you have in real time robbed, murdered, and jailed so many Oromos that almost every family is touched one way of the other. So, with the Oromos, you have no friends.

Let’s consider, as you suggested, the Somalis. Genocide Watch has officially declared that the Woyane regime is conducting genocide in Ogaden. That’s for you doubters. Ask any Ogadenian. He or she, at best, will tell you that Tigrians are destroying the Somalis. Amharus have voided being part of this shenanigan so much that the Somalis have long blamed Tigrians for what is happening in Ogaden AND in Somalia proper. The fact that you have divided the country along ethnic lines and the fact that Tigrians have chosen to greedily hog power has worked out against you: The blame is now squarely on Tigrians.

Of course what about the other ethnic groups? I will mention what you did to the Anuaks. Enough said.

The best thing about all this is that, still, the Amharas have by and large chosen to stay away from these shenanigans. I am grateful for that. I personally want to see this play out the way it is. I don’t think most Amharus care if Ethiopia exists anymore or not. In fact, I believe most Amharus would vote for a disbanded Ethiopia (keeping our flag) as it will more likely benefit us. It is ironic that you don’t see how far you have destroyed the Ethiopia ideal. We have all the resources to sustain ourselves. We have the manpower, political skills, and natural resources to hold our own. It has come down to survival.

This post is not to offend. Hadege Kassa, a Non Tigrian view can only benefit you in answering ur q.
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Re: The future after 2010
by Halafi Mengedi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:21 am
King Ezana,

Regardless status of Tigray future, the Eritrean issue has to be solved as mandatory for Tigray to avoid future disaster. Tigray does not need to join Eritrea but retake back our lands, there is no one will argue that Akele is not part of the Eastern Tigray of awraja Agame, all of them are part of awraja Agame region since day one. Seraye are exclusively Adwa, the two people are the same and their origin is from the same place from day one how Seraye and Adwa became two Awaraja as central Tigray. The Hamassien people are the run away Tembien, they are exclusively from one Woreda. The Woreda they came from is called Tanka Melash it includes AbiAdi. If you see all the name of the places in Hamassien they are a copy of every places from Tembien. The Billen people are from Abergele Woreda Tembien they are part of Agew Tembien. Those are the only people still proud of Tembien, Tigray. So, the three Awraja of Eritrea do not have facts to back up they are different people and belong to Eritrea as a different entity. Whether they like it or not they are simply Tigray and the lands they occupied belong to Axumite kingdom. I do not worry about the Tigrigna speaking people of Eritrea as much as the majority population Tigre. The highlanders of Eritrea are less than one million and every day they are leaving Eritrea, if war breaks again those are the most likely to leave Eritrea in mass exodus to the rest of the world and they will not real treat to us in long term.

The true owners of Medri Bahri are Kunama, Afar, Saho, Tigre and Beja. Beja can unite with Sudan, Kunama, Saho and Afar can join with their ethnics in Tigray and our relation with those ethnics through out history is smooth, respect and harmony among us. The Tigre are a little bit different as their religion and culture different than us but history show we can coexist as the previous generations did fighting outside enemies together to preserve the Red Sea coast. Tigre should have their own Autonomy either with Tigray as a nation or Ethiopia union.

The bottom line is EPRDF should involve heavily to help Kunama, Afar and Saho and creating good condition with the Tigre people. Tigray should not waste its time or resources with the Tigrigna speaking Eritreans, they are out there to destroy every one of us and the only thing they understand is to put heavy pressure on them militarily.

If Tigray solves the current Eritrean political situations, the civil war pending to explode in Ethiopia will not affect Tigray too much except economic problems. If there is civil war, the war is going to be waged between Amhara and Oromo for the status of Addis Ababa and Shewa who control it, not the rest of ethnics.

I would not worry about Shewa power because Shewa the name is big but in reality Amhara shewa are only two Awraja in Shewa region and all of them are in the hand of Oromo right now. The true large populations of Amhara are Wollo, not Gonder or Gojjam because Gojjam is mostly Agew and Gonder is mostly Agew and Tigray.

I do not believe the opposition party will be good for Tigray as the party members are being dominated by Amharu and Oromos and Tigray is just a symbol, nothing else. Tigrayans we should not be fooled ourselves now, the only way Tigray can be survived and benefited is if all Tigrayans unite and stick together as one party and deal with the rest of ethnic Ethiopians. If Tigrayans start joining different parties in the name of democracy or something else, Tigray will vanish its current status and will end up the same way pre woyane life.
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Re: The future after 2010
by Halafi Mengedi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:39 am
Guest,

If you are Shaebia, I do not want to say much about you anymore just wait for the right time.

If you are Shaebia dog OLF, I say your cattle are more difficult to control and maintain them than your OLF fighters and members. You remember one Ganta Haili (one brigade army) gathered 20,000 OLF fighters in a week and all of them surrendered. You owe priceless for every to Tigray who liberated you and gave you your language, culture region.
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Re: The future after 2010
by George » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:21 am

Hadegekassa, like you I am still a believer of one Ethiopia but having said that the degree of Tigree bashing and an all out racist attitude towards the Tigreans is very staggering. We all know that the Amharus starting from childhood are spoon fed with ethnic curses and slurs from their parents. One might expect that it stops the moment one is educated or reached maturity. sadly enough it goes on till this day. Still one might say it is toward all ethnics not only on Tegarus. But the extreme hate displayed on Tegarus this days is beyond belief. Read the article by a fellow “Guest” above to see the degree in how much these people go to accuse the government from ethnic cleansing to genocide. We all have read books written about the grafting and stealing of Ethiopia to the enrichment of Tigrai. Well the reality is, God knows why, all the major development projects are either in Amhara region or the Oromo region while we are blamed for every cocked up genocides and imaginary lootings. Lately I found it very staggering to comprehend the behaviour of many Amharus. In a cafe full of Amharigna speakers if a couple speaks in Tigrigna they immediately complain that the cafe is full of Tegarus. I was once with all Amharus in Sodore and at one table there were only four Tigrigna speakers but to my bewilderment and anger some at my own table were complaining at how the whole Sodore was taken by Tegarus. I could do nothing but left them to simmer in their own hates. The same at work places, if there are only ten Tigreans among thousands of Amharus they still will complain about those ten. They seem to have inferiority complex when it comes to Tegarus.

Do they have well deserved grievances? You bet they have. But it is not only them, we also had the same grievances when it comes to Eritrea or the so called Somali republic etc. which emanates from the same Ethiopianess feeling which is still prevalent among most Ethiopians. We have been the northern gate keepers of Ethiopia for centuries, our fore fathers have fought to keep a UNITED ETHIOPIA and with out Tigrai there is no Ethiopian history for which ironically the Amharus are proud of. We have to watch the coming years if the behaviours of the Amharus changes, but if not there is nothing better than to live apart from people who don’t want our existence. But if the TPLF is asked what they have done for Tigrai they better answer: NOTHING, and tell how much good they have done for Amharus and Oromos. How an ironical dilemma.
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Re: The future after 2010
by hadegeKassa » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:37 pm
Guys (George and Halafi), where is dani?

you know I didn’t expect to have this discussion a year ago, thank you for your response. I will be reading your responses more closely so we can continue this discussion…please stay tuned, a lot of questions need to be asked and fellow moderators should assist in keeping this thread clean from unnecessary distractions. God have mercy on us all.
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Re: The future after 2010
by Guest » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:29 pm

george? why fixation on amharus? theyre not in power. who is to blame????? many tegaru should know this meles and co damage many peoples. they work in name of tegaru and who they balme? us!!!!!
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Re: The future after 2010
by Halafi Mengedi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:23 pm

hadegeKassa wrote:Guys (George and Halafi), where is dani?

you know I didn’t expect to have this discussion a year ago, thank you for your response. I will be reading your responses more closely so we can continue this discussion…please stay tuned, a lot of questions need to be asked and fellow moderators should assist in keeping this thread clean from unnecessary distractions. God have mercy on us all.

Dani is busy reconciling the different bank accounts for Meles and Sebhat for yearly bank statements to close the book the last few months. He is shuttling between Mekele bank to Khartoum banks to European banks and China banks. Hopefully he will show up once he finishes auditing Berhane Gebre Kirstos deposit slips against bank statement books. Just kidding, he wishes though!!!!
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Re: The future after 2010
by azebo » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:56 pm

This is for (george). To be fair I can say those tegarus of the past kept Ethiopia United. What we have after EPRDF took over is that we lost our ports and Eritrea is in the hands of Shabia and we are losing land like badme and in west Ethiopia and so on. So this generation of tegaru in power like sebhat have opened the door for Ethiopias destruction and our people.

George wrote:Hadegekassa, like you I am still a believer of one Ethiopia but having said that the degree of Tigree bashing and an all out racist attitude towards the Tigreans is very staggering. We all know that the Amharus starting from childhood are spoon fed with ethnic curses and slurs from their parents. One might expect that it stops the moment one is educated or reached maturity. sadly enough it goes on till this day. Still one might say it is toward all ethnics not only on Tegarus. But the extreme hate displayed on Tegarus this days is beyond belief. Read the article by a fellow “Guest” above to see the degree in how much these people go to accuse the government from ethnic cleansing to genocide. We all have read books written about the grafting and stealing of Ethiopia to the enrichment of Tigrai. Well the reality is, God knows why, all the major development projects are either in Amhara region or the Oromo region while we are blamed for every cocked up genocides and imaginary lootings. Lately I found it very staggering to comprehend the behaviour of many Amharus. In a cafe full of Amharigna speakers if a couple speaks in Tigrigna they immediately complain that the cafe is full of Tegarus. I was once with all Amharus in Sodore and at one table there were only four Tigrigna speakers but to my bewilderment and anger some at my own table were complaining at how the whole Sodore was taken by Tegarus. I could do nothing but left them to simmer in their own hates. The same at work places, if there are only ten Tigreans among thousands of Amharus they still will complain about those ten. They seem to have inferiority complex when it comes to Tegarus.

Do they have well deserved grievances? You bet they have. But it is not only them, we also had the same grievances when it comes to Eritrea or the so called Somali republic etc. which emanates from the same Ethiopianess feeling which is still prevalent among most Ethiopians. We have been the northern gate keepers of Ethiopia for centuries, our fore fathers have fought to keep a UNITED ETHIOPIA and with out Tigrai there is no Ethiopian history for which ironically the Amharus are proud of. We have to watch the coming years if the behaviours of the Amharus changes, but if not there is nothing better than to live apart from people who don’t want our existence. But if the TPLF is asked what they have done for Tigrai they better answer: NOTHING, and tell how much good they have done for Amharus and Oromos. How an ironical dilemma.
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Re: The future after 2010
by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:04 am

We must become like Israel. The Amharu will never sleep for us. They are our historical enemies. The Eritreans are too brain washed by the fascists. They have complexes. While all the latest military hardware is still in tigrai we should declare independence. We have enough educated people to keep us surviving and enough military know how to defend ourselves. More so the Amharu now are weak, diseased (look at census report) and on their way to extinction by Oromos. We don’t need anyone. We should move all economic assets to Tigrai before all this.
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Re: The future after 2010
by Halafi Mengedi » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:33 am

Guest wrote:

Guest wrote:We must become like Israel. The Amharu will never sleep for us. They are our historical enemies. The Eritreans are too brain washed by the fascists. They have complexes. While all the latest military hardware is still in tigrai we should declare independence. We have enough educated people to keep us surviving and enough military know how to defend ourselves. More so the Amharu now are weak, diseased (look at census report) and on their way to extinction by Oromos. We don’t need anyone. We should move all economic assets to Tigrai before all this.

Tigrai and other oppositions need to destroy Shaebia before we consider your suggestions. We can not afford to have both sides north and south of us enemy but I agree with you to consider asset transfers and other things to be put in place way ahead of time. Tigrai needs modern road from Mekele to Oromia via Afar if we go own way it will be difficult for us to use the current highway through the hostile Amhara region. Also Tigrayans in Amhara region in Wollo and Gonder make them ready to claim their lands where every they reside. In Wollo Lasta Lalibela Gidden, Sekota, Habru and Kobo. In the Gonder side Metema, Adi Arkay and Sanja.
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Re: The future after 2010
by Guest » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:24 pm

“I don’t believe the problem is Shaebia. I think it is Eritreans. As long as they have the superiority (really inferiority) complex it does not matter if Saebia is destroyed. They will always be enemies. Tigrai and other oppositions need to destroy Shaebia before we consider your suggestions. We can not afford to have both sides north and south of us enemy but I agree with you to consider asset transfers and other things to be put in place way ahead of time. Tigrai needs modern road from Mekele to Oromia via Afar if we go own way it will be difficult for us to use the current highway through the hostile Amhara region. Also Tigrayans in Amhara region in Wollo and Gonder make them ready to claim their lands where every they reside. In Wollo Lasta Lalibela Gidden, Sekota, Habru and Kobo. In the Gonder side Metema, Adi Arkay and Sanja.” Guest

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Re: The future after 2010
by zack » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:28 pm

A simple advice for the Tegaru brothers. I am from Amhara group and we do not have ill intention towards Tigrayans. Our grievances is only on Meles and Sebhat who by days made us poor and kill us slowly. As some of the members stated, the resentment to Tigrayans is increasing everyday, every hour and every minutes. TPLF and its backer (the Tegarus) are hated due to the significunt contribution they made on locking ethiopia from the sea forever and recognizing the reneged Eritrea before anyone else in the planet. That crime didn’t stopped. Our land is being given to Sudan and the hate propoganda TPLF distributed in Oromia which resulted on the death of many settlers there, lose of home, family and livelyhood.

Much of the population has tolerated Tigray taking fertile lands from Gondar and wollo due to the way we see Tegarus as our people. But ethnically clensing the welkait, Tsegede areas is an insult and shows the future design of TPLF on breaking away taking lands from here and there. Now, whatever we have lost is lost. Personally, Eritreans are much closer to me than Tigrayans who worked tirelessly to distroy my culture, langauge and way of life. The sentment of seeing shabia as a friend is now getting popular. In addis, most people choose to watch Eri-TV than woyannes propoganda and outright insult. what is left is peoples resistance to survive. we don’t care about the sea or a united Ethiopia anymore. what is at stake is our own survival. so Shabia is the best alternative. Meles gave lands to sudan so we don’t come after him that way, but we have Eritrea. and the resentment and the sentment against Tegarus will soon transform into skirmishes that will envolve everyone. Who will be the victor? It will be you Tegarus. As the unexpected thing happens and before you become a gypsy in the horn, there are a lot of things you can do. You have created enemies in the entire horn from Somalia to Agnuak, from Oromo to Amhara and Eritrea and you are too confident. Your invincibility will turn into something you have never thought. Your best alternative to come out of such mess is removing Meles Zenawi
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Re: The future after 2010
by ObamaJr » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:48 pm

We Tegaru will come out as winners if anything happen. But we can prempt this by dismantling the HGDFites from Asmara and put a friendly government there. What Meles has done to Amharus is smart. He gave their land to Sudan and Sudan is not going to entertain any Amharus in their land. We can’t do that kind of business with Eritrea. All we have to do is remove shaebia and install a friendly government who through years can unite Tigray with our Tegaru people of Eritrea

 

 

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